A conversation with Van Halen Album cover man, ESPN Bodyshaping star, and
legendary bodybuilding champion, Rick Valente.
By Dr. Michael Dusa
MD: Hey Rick, great to talk to you!
RV: Thanks Mike.
MD: You know, you are one of the guys who came out of the tiny Nutmeg
State of Connecticut, my home state, to make it big on the world scale.
RV: Yup. I was born in New Haven, and I grew up in Ansonia, you know,
"The Valley."
MD: Last time I was there, I got knocked out! High school football game
against Ansonia High School- a tough batch of youngsters!
RV: Well, yes. You had to be tough if you lived where I grew up. The high
school and my home were right near the projects in Ansonia. There were drugs,
gangs, motorcycle clubs-you name it.
MD: So, what was it like growing up there?
RV: First, let me tell you, I myself was no angel. I can also say that,
without a doubt, lifting weights saved my life. Invariably, if I hadn't gotten
involved with the iron at a very early age, I'd be dead today. No way would you
and I be having this conversation now.
I started training in my parent's basement at about 12 or 13 years old.
You know the story-I mailed out for the Charles Atlas routine. I have to say
right now that my parents were the best-they were wonderful people and fully
supported me. They let me run with my passion. My father let me drill holes in
the walls to construct pulley and spring apparatus. I made a huge "vision
board" on the wall.
MD: Before you go on, and not that I would forget, but just where in the
world did those "best ever" triceps of yours come from?
RV: (laughs). Thanks Mike. Well, right away, at home, I started dips and
reverse dips on two chairs. These were very easy for me to perform-the more I
did, the better my bench press got. My triceps just grew! I was also into
martial arts. I needed to be able to handle myself and look and be strong. The
spectre of fighting always existed when I'd venture out from my house.
I mentioned I was no angel. I also want to say although I was surrounded
by a lot of sinister influences and people of ill repute, I knew early that how
I handled these influences would delegate my path in life. This was the
70's...yes, there was pot and cocaine...but heroine was very big at the time. I
lost many close friends to drugs.
MD: But even though you had a lot of bad examples not to emulate, you
must have had some pretty good role models, too.
RV: Oh of course! I worked at a grocery store and I'd always be out in
the parking lot gathering and pushing the shopping carriages, and many times,
there was big Sherman Backus, and great powerlifter and bodybuilder. He'd had a
deadlift record at one time...a HUGE back! I'd see him coming and going and he'd
always flex his huge arm for me! He was amazing to me! Too bad he's passed on.
MD: No, Rick. Sherman is alive, well, and still looks great! Just saw him
in the gym and had a nice chat. I know him well...suffered defeat to him in the
85 Waterbury show.
RV: That's fantastic! Thank God. I heard wrong then. Such a great guy.
When I was 15 I started training in the Ansonia YMCA which was housed in a tiny
bolier room. Many of the older guys were good to know and learn from there. It
was hardcore-no fluff. And I also went to Mike Katz's World Gym East in Hamden
and trained with Mike, Jerry Mastrangelo and Joe Ugolik, who you know was with
Mike in Pumping Iron. Joey had a three quarter twisting back double bicep shot
that reminded you of Arnold! There was Ronnie Mangum, as well, great Hamden
High School Football player and bodybuilder. I went to California to watch him
compete in the AAU Mr. America in 1978-he took 6th. Tony Pearson won that year.
One guy who really ultimately made a difference for me was Bob Levine. He
was about ten years older than me and joined the Ansonia YMCA. All the guys
hated him because he'd smear a ton of Icy Hot all over his body and that's all
you'd smell! They wanted to kill him. These guys were killers(laughs)! I
befriended Bob. Eventually he moved to Florida, and gave me his card and said
to look him up someday. More on him later though.
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| High school football days |
MD: So you played sports in high school?
RV: Oh yes. Football. I was a pretty good player. Three kids who I really
looked up to were a couple of years older but were great, great players were
Roger Innes, Joey Cardella and Gary Taylor. Innes is a local legend-just an
outstanding player. I played linebacker and fullback-I enjoyed hitting people.
I also wrestled, but I was a bit small for that.
MD: So no bodybuilding contests for you in high school?
RV: No. That was a bit later. Through high school, and after I
graduated-I mean, it was so bad where I lived. One of my earliest memories was
me being at an Italian festival at age 8 and seeing two kids beat another so
badly he lost consciousness...this was right in front of my mother and I.
Another time I was at a house party with a bunch of people and the cops broke
it up. Everyone there was arrested except a friend and I. We literally hid
under a bed for four hours as the cops were standing right above us. They left
and we got away. Mike...I can easily list a dozen guys who I knew who are now
dead from drugs. Finally, I remember leaving a theater after watching a Clint
Eastwood movie, and out in the parking lot there was, before our eyes, yet
another colossal beat-down. That's the first time I recall thinking, "I've
gotta get out of here."
I was torn between being Bruce Lee, Arnold, or having the biker life. We
all had bikes then. Gangs were prolific. I chose the Arnold path.
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| First bike |
MD: So, off to California.
RV: No. Not then. Bob Levine, who I mentioned earlier, told me to look
him up if I ever cared to. This was the best thing I ever did. Bob had moved to
Florida and lived in a condo on the beach. I moved there upon his invitation
and got jobs as a lifeguard on the beach by day, and as a bouncer in a night
club for evenings. At the club, we'd always get in fights. There were drunk
college kids, drunk sailors in town-they were looking to fight.
So we accommodated them (laughs)! We had a big crew of 14 guys on staff-Chris Duffy, a great bodybuilder, James Sisco. We'd all have each other's backs.
So we accommodated them (laughs)! We had a big crew of 14 guys on staff-Chris Duffy, a great bodybuilder, James Sisco. We'd all have each other's backs.
This club held the first bodybuilding show I'd ever entered, it was 1978
or 79, the "Mr. Summers" contest. I won, and I was hooked on
competing. Competing was a whole new world for me. I was like a kid in a candy
store. I won the Mr. Golden Glades and the Mr. Gold Coast shows. Soon, I knew I
had to move to where the true action was-California.
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| Winning the Mr. Gold Coast show in 1981 before moving to California |
RV: Oh, I definitely wanted to be Mr. Olympia. I moved to LA with $500 in
my pocket. I had no car, and initially stayed in a hotel. But, I was blessed. I
tell you someone has always watched over me. Tim Kimber, Ed Conners and Pete
Grymkowski took a liking to me and watched over me. They were great to me.
They'd use me as a model in advertisements. At the time, Gold's had a motion
picture department run by a guy named Derek Barton. Through him, I got a ton of
commercial work.
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| Rick in one of his first ads |
Gold's was just one big room. You'd have Viator, Pillow, Teagan Clive.
These kids on Youtube now...they bench three change and think that's special.
What do they want? A cookie? Look, we'd INCLINE 400 pounds for 10-15 reps.
Everyone seemed to be doing dumbbell curls with 100's. This was the norm.
MD: Yes. The younger generation. They just don't know, many of them. Do
they?
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| Rick's brother from another planet |
Guys like Jack Lalanne. How could you possibly not know him or discount
him? He was a friend. He was so on point. You know he said, "If God didn't
make it-then don't eat it." I originally met him at a health and fitness
expo and HE told Me that he was my fan! He knew me from Bodyshaping. I was beyond
flattered.
MD: Man, I always wish I'd met Jack.
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| Autographed picture from fitness icon Jack Lalanne |
MD: That's a huge one. I remember back then the guys who would annex the
LA and California shows were very likely to win the Mr. America, too.
RV: Exactly. It's like my original vision board that I had formulated in
my parent's basement-it was all coming true for me. Backstage at the LA, Rick
Wayne approached me and said he wanted to put me on the cover of Flex Magazine.
I was shocked!
MD: You know, recently I read on the net that the Flex cover of you-you
are curling a dumbbell from the side-was one of the most popular bodybuilding
covers ever. You've done many covers, I've seen.
RV: Really? I didn't know that. Yes, I've appeared on 50 magazine covers.
Around this time is when I started doing television commercials. I was on the
beach and an assistant director approached me and asked me if I wanted to be in
a television commercial. He walked me over to the Pit on Venice Beach, and they
filmed me doing some curls. And there it was-I was in a Pepsi commercial. I met
a commercial producer at a party named Joe Pitka, and I got many jobs through
him. I did 15 commercials with Joe, in total I appeared in 47 television
commercials. You know, everything in life comes down to relationships. Good
ones lead you to where you want to go, who you want to be. It helped that I
constantly stayed in good shape, and, frankly, when I'd go on a casting call,
I'd usually get the job.
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| One of the most popular bodybuilding magazine covers ever |
MD: I recall a commercial with Bo Jackson...
RV: Yes! Bo was a great, great guy. One day during shooting he asked me
my shoe size. A couple of weeks later a box arrived at my house and it was
filled with Nike gear. He was a class act.
MD: No movies for you?
RV: I did a few scenes in movies, but I was not really attracted to the
prospects of a movie career. I still wanted to pursue my competitive
bodybuilding career. I was training very hard in 1987, and I recall Cameo
Kneur, Cory Everson's sister, was spotting me on bench press. In the midst of
the movement, my pec "locked" and the sound it made was like that of
a piece of plywood being torn in half. The pectoral muscle belly was ripped
completely in half. Lyle Alzado was there and he took me to the hospital, but,
with me not having health insurance at the time, they turned me away. Lyle
hooked me up with the surgeon for the Raiders and he did the surgical repair
for me. I remember being in the hospital bed following the surgery, and two doctors saw me, one older, the other much younger. The younger guy emphasized
that my tear was "the worst I've ever seen." The older doctor who
came in later said I'd be fine, to stay positive. I want to stress here, right
now, that for anybody reading this, it is very important to think about what
comes out of your mouth before you say it.
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| Pumping arms on the sets |
MD: A very bad injury indeed. Were you laid up for a long time?
RV: I couldn't really train as I'd have liked to for about a year. I had
my arm in a sling for about eight weeks. I was reduced to using a two pound
weight in physical therapy.
MD: Humbling. But you did of course get back into fantastic shape...and
then ESPN's Bodyshaping came along...
RV: Well, remember what I said about relationships being key? I ended up
having some words and a disagreement with one gentlemen. Around this time, I
walked in to audition for Bodyshaping...and who was the owner of the show? Yes,
the guy I had had words with. Right there, I pretty much said, "Okay, I'll
just be on my way..." He told me to stay, and he gave me a second chance.
I got the part as you know, and it was life changing for me. We shot for 10
years, and the show itself ran for 16 years. We shot all over the world. We'd
do 100 shows a year, shooting five shows a day in two, ten day periods. I
worked with the most wonderful people-Kiana Tom, Debbie Kruk, Boyer Coe, Sal
the old timer. I ended up learning a lot about the technical aspects of production-lights,
camera, positioning. I got so much out of the whole experience.
We all had to get certified in personal training every year. We had to answer fan mail, and, as you know, everyone is different. There is NO
universal, cookie-cutter solution. We'd have to give the "safe"
answer to the public. The only time I'd answer a question is if I tried it
myself or researched it.
RV: Yes. There was a casting call for this opportunity at Gold's Gym.
Derek Barton called me and told me to come on down and try out for it. There
was a line of guys around the building trying out. I got the assignment. My
mother taught me as a kid, if my grandmother or someone gave me some money or a
gift for my birthday, always call them and thank them. If someone would give me
a job, I'd always call and let them know of my appreciation. Derek Barton-he
helped me get so many jobs. I ended up giving him a Movado watch as thanks.
I hung out with the guys from Van Halen for three days, we had a blast!
They were all very cool. This was the time Sammy Hagar was with them. When the
album came out, I could not believe it was only me on the cover!
MD: Have you trained any celebrities?
RV: Oh yes. Remember, in the late seventies and early eighties, personal
training as we know it today really didn't exist. Gregory Hines, a wonderful
person and a big, big bodybuilding fan, approached me in Gold's one day-he
actually knew who I was. He asked me to train him. I wasn't really sure what to
charge him, so I suggested $40 per hour. He said no, how about $75 and hour? I
trained him for years. I trained him for his role in 'Tap,' 'Jelly's Last Jam,'
I was a guest at his home many times. When he died, so young, it broke my
heart.
RV: You know, adversity introduces you to you. I buried my mom, my dad,
and my brother, all within a two year time frame. The day my brother got killed
was the same day my mother fell and broke her hip, which was the beginning of
the end for her. I trained Tony Danza, and when his mother died, I could not
relate to or feel his pain. When my mother died, it simply smashed me. Now,
with the holidays, there is no childhood home to come back to. Everyone is
gone.
It's sad to say, but the last thing you will do for your parents is
choose their tomb stones. I've learned, at this point of my life, to wake up
with gratitude and just be happy that I am alive.
I have a rich, diverse life. Look at Frank Zane. He's evolved into music,
writing, other things other than bodybuilding. These bodybuilders today should
not cheat themselves out of opportunities and experiences outside of the realm
of physique. Face it. You are never, ever going to look like you did when you
were 25. Some of these guys, they talk about making a comeback. Why on earth
would they want to do this in their 50's? Their minds are simply not open to
anything new.
MD: Agreed. I am a student of Zane. He talks of using "right
speech."
RV: Exactly. Your thoughts make you who you are. I don't use certain
words. I won't say "hate." Why would I let anything cause me to hate
it? I walk away from toxicity. I'm always mindful of being responsible for the
positive energy I bring into a room.
MD: So, how far would have you gone in bodybuilding had your path not
taken the turns it did?
RV: Well, you know, I never did do human growth hormone. My legs could
have been bigger. I had good upper body size. They are certainly not looking
for my type of physique today. You know, you'd see Lee Haney and say,
"Hey, I'd like to look like that." Today? No. Big blocky guys with
their guts hanging out? Bodybuilding has changed, and not at all for the good.
I was blessed that I was around in the days of Bob Paris and Matt Mendenhall.
If I didn't have the pec tear? I'm really not sure how far I'd have gone.
MD: Joe Weider and Arnold?
RV: Joe-I loved him. He was great to me. I'd go to his office, he'd
personally attend to the photo shoots. He gave me a contract, and he didn't
give many of those out. It wasn't much money, but he was respectful of me and
did open doors for me. He saw in me my marketability. Arnold I know but am not
in his inner circle. He's always been nice to me, and has always reinvented
himself. He's doing that even now.
MD: Rick, what is training like for you now?
RV: I do each body part once per week. I incorporate a little cardio, not
too much of that. Like anyone at this for so many years, I train smarter now.
There is arthritis, the old pec tear, my neck is jacked up. You know this
doc-you are only as healthy as your spine lets you be. I am much kinder to
myself now. I mean, back in the day, we'd train like a pack of caged animals.
We'd pound the weights. Not good for the joints.
MD: So where are you at with things now?
RV: Well, I'm not rich, but I am in a position where I am free to pursue
my passions. Freedom is key. Most of us don't know it, but that is what we are
all struggling for. I feel I am in the fourth quarter of life now, and I want
the coach to give me the ball. I don't always know how, but I will get to the
goal line. I am writing a book on my life, my journey, my passions and
motivations. I work a lot in photography. I have a friend dying currently from
pancreatic cancer, and I'm there for him to help make his remaining days as
good as possible.
MD: Rick, I'm happy to see that along with all of your success you are
also happy and your path is unfettered by needless interruption. Thanks so much
for your time my friend.
RV: Mike, I thank you. I just want to say that if you are positive,
grateful, and pursue your passion, then happiness is sure to come.
Thank you Dr. Michael Dusa and Rick Valente for this fantastic interview
Best regards from
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